It is tempting to write a historical fiction from the point of view from the famous figures of the era. Many fictions wrote Napoleon, Elizabeth I, or Alexander the Great as the protagonists with their own voices. However, this poses danger of simplifying/glorifying/vilifying the figures and bend the historical details. For example, the author writing Napoleon as the heroic figure might purposefully ignore his atrocities in Haiti or other blunders, or even try to glorify his vices.
Some authors find it restricting to write on well-known figure so they create new characters or take on lesser known characters. Hitoshi Iwaaki, the manga artist who created The Parasite, had Eumenes, Alexander the Great's secretary, as the main character of his historical comics "Historie". This provides more liberty for the author but may not attract readers' attention or place himself in dangerous paradox by making supposedly "obscure" figures too good – if such a significant person had lived, why did historians fail to recognize them?
But which type of protagonist can provide more entertainment? What would be the good model to follow?
Which type of protagonist can provide more entertainment: famous, infamous, or non-famous? Which would be the best model to follow?
It is the author's responsibility to be very diligent about their research and fact checking in either case. Period. At that point, I think it mainly depends on what point the author is trying to get across. Maybe they want to justify or show a different side of a famous person in which case it may make more sense to use the famous person. But if they want a little bit more freedom, then yes it'd make more sense to use someone less famous. And if the writer isn't really concerned with history as much as the characters, maybe they don't really care about the facts and therefore need to toe a line between being believable and interesting. – Tatijana9 years ago
This is interesting! Comparing the portrayal of famous historical figures could be helpful for this topic; you could look at how widely they vary. I imagine that major historical figures may attract a wider audience, but I think that the fact that it's "fiction" would have to be taken into account. I imagine that each interpretation on the facts is entirely different from another.
The interesting thing about an original character would be that we don't know the outcome; there is a sense of mystery as a reader as to the character's fate, whereas we go in knowing the fate of a historical figure. In that sense, I think you could make an argument for both types of historical novel being the best model. – laurakej9 years ago
Decades ago, if a book was written or a movie was produced, the writer or filmmaker could only hope that their work would have a sequel, remake, or adaptation into some other form of media. Nowadays, any fictional work seems to possess potential to be expanded into a fictional franchise. Has this trend reduced the quality/nostalgic feel of the original classic stories? Or can the expanded franchise be seen as a way of paying tribute to the original work?
It really depends. If the remake/sequel is well thought out and developed then yes it can be a tribute. Unfortunately, I think a lot of remakes or sequels are done to capitalize on the original fanbase and make money off an already existing idea instead of painstakingly creating a new one that may fail. – Tatijana9 years ago
Perhaps elaborate a bit more. An expansion is always a double-edged sword. Could always run the risk of ruining something perfect, or alternatively improve upon what was already good. – CalvinLaw9 years ago
I think another good question to ask is 'Does the obsession with sequels force authors to drag out their story when it could be accomplished in a shorter, quicker paced single piece? Do you think this is leading to a decline in the quality of books/film, or do you believe it is re-energizing these entertainment fields?' – cocomelish9 years ago
Teiresias is a character that appears in a number of Greek plays,and other Greek Literature (namely, the trilogy of the Oedipus Cycle). Teiresias seems to have the role of the wisest of all men in the literature of Ancient Greece, with his role in the plot to either expose it, or to play an otherwise pivotal role. How is this done specifically? From whence is his wisdom derived? Also, is his prevalence any indicator of an ideal, or an actual, venerated person?
One could look specifically at the different stories about how Teiresias became blind and the way that his physical blindness is compensated by spiritual vision. The figure of the blind seer becomes an archetype throughout Western literature, from John Milton to Gloucester in King Lear to Anchorman 2. Teiresias also reappears in modern literature, such as T.S. Eliot's The Waste Land. – JLaurenceCohen9 years ago
I'm currently writing a college essay specifically regarding Atwood's usage of architecture, but I'd like to see it on a more global level. Margaret Atwood's A Handmaid's Tale shows an area titled the Republic of Gilead that everyone lives in and the narrator provides vivid descriptions of the architecture in the area – a Late Victorian style with the simplicity of early Neoclassical beliefs in the United States. Atwood has said in interviews that it is also inspired by Cambridge, MA as far as the style and layout. Although I haven't read any other Atwood novel I have heard that she also describes architecture in great detail in those. Many other writers such as William Faulkner and Edgar Allen Poe have done similar things with their work where they take real architectural styling and use it to create a unique, sometimes metaphorical, space. How does the architecture change our perception of the story i regards to its surface value? Should architecture be described more in writing to create a surreal sense of space?
I think this is a wonderful topic. Another thing to think about would be the Gothic Era; this focused alot on architecture in literature, since the concept of space was very important at this time. Gothic architecture is also used to enhance gothic elements in novels; think of how the abbey works in The Romance of the Forest ? The castle in Dracula ? Just a thought to consider since you also mentioned Edgar Allen Poe ! :) – alishauppal9 years ago
An excellent topic - - literature cannot help but be the palimpset on which all the arts of that era leave their impringts. – SUNANDO DASGUPTA AND ASSOCIATES5 years ago
Read G. Perec and all these ideas will go away. (BTW, it's 'Allan'). – T. Palomino2 years ago
Analysing how the heroic virtues of the protagonist of Odysseus in Homer's 'The Odyssey' befalls tragedy and misfortune on his travels in the form of overt heroic confidence, contrasting it with his characterization in 'The Illiad'.
Definitely sure that such analysis has already been made. – T. Palomino2 years ago
Conrad's Heart of Darkness explores the mysteries of human corruption. Francis Ford Coppola adapted Conrad's novel in Apocalypse Now, re-telling Conrad's story in the context of the Vietnam War instead of the Belgian colonization of the Congo. Matthew Stover's Star Wars novel, Shatterpoint, adapts Heart of Darkness with Mace Windu as the protagonist. Stover's novel is set on Mace's home world, the jungle planet of Haruun Kal, whose guerrilla uprising clearly echoes Coppola's film. How do Coppola and Stover adapt Conrad's novel? How does the portrayal of racism and colonialism differ in these appropriations? How do their endings diverge from each other?
Another interesting perspective that may be helpful is Chinua Achebe's "Things Fall Apart," which was considered the indigenous perspective to Conrad (however, flawed this book might be in achieving such). – Paul Osgerby9 years ago
Something I've been thinking about lately is how competitive getting published is. Novelists who want to write a "less accessible" kind of story may find themselves struggling with finding an audience, or even an interested agent. Meanwhile, the list of national bestsellers is filled with novels that, generally, play it safe. For instance, The Girl on the Train is regarded in its promotional material as another Gone Girl. Would the former have been written the way it was or even be written at all if the latter didn't precede it? Are the heavily publicized novels becoming too homogeneous? And how is this reflected across genres?
I think that wanting to be a bestselling author can stifle you. The more you have to consider your audience and your books acceptance the more you are going to deviate from your true story. Then again, maybe if you are a really good author maybe you can still find a way to push boundaries and yet be accepted? And the will these copy cat safe best sellers even stand the test of time? I'm probably getting too far off topic now... – Tatijana9 years ago
While this point of view may be naive, I do think that good stories will get written and distributed to readers who are interested, with the right marketing of course. However, I do think in some genres, such as mystery, it can be easy to want to closely imitate the tropes or signature twists of particular authors. I would make sure to do a lot of research about marketing and sales when writing that topic so that any expressed opinions are well informed. – mmg19959 years ago
We shouldn't forget that published literature is an industry. I think that when an author's book is promoted as similar to another's, it's a way to ride off of a success that's already been attained. If they are genuinely similar, couldn't it be a case of people trying to take formulaic approaches to novels in order to make bank? The need to make a living affecting the quality of the product? On the other hand, what about writers (who are usually avid readers) being inspired by popular novels? It follows that something that becomes popular is more likely to influence people. – DapperHologram9 years ago
This is a very interesting topic! But I think like most mediums, most things cannot stand "on their own" and instead have to be reflections of something earlier. It's unfortunate but I think there can be some useful scholarship concerning it. – aykaykay39 years ago
There is great unbalance between the popularity of works of prose and works of poetry in today's world. Everyone and their mother has read a novel or two, and you might even hear them recommend one. Poetry, on the other hand, seems to be something hidden from mainstream conversation and even recognition. I can go on naming celebrated contemporary authors and novelists, while the only poet I can think of as being worthy of "celebrity" status is Billy Collins. That is not to say that there are not skilled or renowned poets today, but it seems that neither they nor their work are nearly as recognized. Why might this be?
I'm curious about this too. I'm an English major, and I regularly read novels for fun, but I almost never do that with poetry. I don't know if it's because poetry is just plain harder to read than novels (and has that always been a thing? or is it just a modern development?), but maybe also because of one being seen as more "academic." Most people's first introduction to a novel is something fun like Magic Treehouse, but most people first introduction to poetry is probably like analyzing sonnets in high school English class. I actually hadn't even read anything by Billy Collins until this summer - and that was because I had a friend give me a collection of his poems, and I just decided to read it for fun. It probably also has something to do with the fact that novels 'feel' more accessible because they're more similar to film and other modes of storytelling, but also because poetry isn't even really concerned with storytelling a lot of the time? – thekellyfornian9 years ago
This is awesome, I love this topic. It is extremely unbalanced in todays world, and I frequently hear people saying they don't write or read poetry because it is "too difficult", or they think it's silly. I see a lack of appreciation in some readers and even writers. I am sad to see it is not being recognized in contemporary culture, so I would be interested to see where someone takes this. – emilyinmannyc9 years ago
it is because of strong and rich prose fiction of your culture. novels, short stories, and drama they have really strong annals but in my country poetry is so strong and rich all of the people know about poets and poetry even though the ancient ones.they memorize poems but they know less about prose. as I know ancient cultures have rich poetry history. it will be more amazing, if you consider these points that I have mentioned. – Elahe Almasi9 years ago
This really, really needs to be addressed!! – Tessnoonan9 years ago
Poetry tends to be difficult to understand. It requires more patience than prose. Social media has shrunk our attention spans, making it less likely that people will read anything, let alone poetry, which typically must be read several times to fully appreciate it. – JLaurenceCohen9 years ago
Good topic! I would like to think about "reading poetry" under the influence of interpretation. How the interpretation (poetry critique, texts trying to explain poems...) can ruin or help our interest on poetry? – laricouto9 years ago
It is confusing....If social media has shrunk our attention spans, I would think that poetry (rather than novels) would fit that medium. It just isn't taken seriously. MUSIC
is. Poetry has become more of personal expression, rather than a storytelling medium as someone else mentioned. That could have something to do with it. – Candice Evenson9 years ago
Poetry in books and on the page may not still have the popularity they used to, but I think the rise of slam poetry is something worth noting. – MichelleAjodah9 years ago