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6 White Complainers in NYC: Contemporary Diversity and the Lasting Appeal of Friends

Humorous jab aside, I recently read an article here about the appeal of Friends to a younger generation of Netflix users. While the platform itself eases the process of binge-watching, what do we think about the notion of diversity which is presented here? This isn't a desire to recast Friends using actresses and actors of colour. Rather, it's a meditation on what exactly these six white characters offer that elicits such interest and intimate connection. Is it because they're the same on the outside but diverse on the inside? Is there a philosophy of entertainment which trumps race to viewers of Friends, or do are the characters themselves constituent to a desire for "emotions" transcending narratives of culture, ethnicity, and race (each of these ideally intersecting, rather than divorced from, class)?

Edit: Munjeera brought up a good point about the diversity of the cast members themselves, and the ways in which some character in the show attempted to maintain an authenticity to themselves (specifically the "Holiday Armadillo" episode). The point about love is something really important to consider too: love of others, love of self, love of life as is, and as it could be.

Musing aside, I what I was hoping to convey is why these individuals in particular seem to transcend Netflix user social borders marked by culture, ethnicity, and race. And, perhaps more importantly, is this the standard which must be met when creating a narrative of love and friendship? What does Friends make self-evident and what does it silence?

  • Agreed. Why has Friends maintained its popularity transcending generations and race? I think the actors are genuinely nice and humble people. Whenever I have seen them in interviews they have never ever come across as arrogant and always thank the fans for embracing them. They also seem to really like each other. It is TV magic, sometimes called lightning in a bottle. Maybe whoever writes this article can shed some light on this mystery. – Munjeera 8 years ago
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  • This is a good topic and definitely has a lot of room to talk about. How would Friends have looked if Chandler was gay? or if Ross and Monica were POC? Would it still have worked as well as it seems to universally? I've never encountered a person in my own life who has watched Friends and didn't like it. The author of this article could also speculate on what makes the character's feel so real. Is it the actor's natural chemistry off-screen? Is it the fact that the actors were all paid the same and negotiated as a group for their contracts to make sure they were all treated as equals? And why do the many copycat shows (How I Met Your Mother, Baby Daddy, Happy Endings, The Big Bang Theory, etc.) that try to capitalize on the construction of the narrative, try and fail to achieve that same level of comedy and emotional connectivity? Of all the shows listed, I think How I Met Your Mother comes the closest, but there are points in the narrative and it's execution that I feel are lacking and disappoint viewers. – Nayr1230 8 years ago
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  • I agree with these comments and your article idea. I've noticed too with Friends that the writing perpetuates gender stereotypes in ways that may not transcend race. Perhaps their problems are contained within their "whiteness," so to speak? – daniellegreen624 7 years ago
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The Impact of Family Channel shows on Pre-Teens.

Analyze the impact of family channel shows such as Jessie, Victorious, Girl meets World (just to name a few) on the attitude and behaviour of pre-teen girls. For example, "Jessie" shows a young girl Jessie the nanny, who is always dressed impeccably is made fun of by her charges. It always makes me uneasy about the message it sends to young girls. Is her dress not good enough? Why is her clothing a topic of discussion for the children in her care? Is putting down the nanny appropriate? Analyze the way pre-teens and teens idealize the stars of the shows and emulate the way they dress and act.

  • These days shows like Jessie are made to be comedy shows that you really don't have to think about. The problem with that being that the insults are often done as the popular jokes of the series. People don't understand that while the jokes aren't to be really though about as being much, it still becomes a part of teenager's experience in communication. – Kevin Mohammed 8 years ago
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  • If you were to discuss Girl Meets World, it would possibly be a good idea to compare the natural counter example of its predecessor, Boy Meets World, and its comparative cultural time and influence on pre-teen boys. – kdaley 8 years ago
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Is the popular media normalizing pot smoking or is it already a normal part of everyday life?

Analyze the cause and effect of the representation of weed in popular media. Lately, smoking pot has been shown as a normal part of youth's life. Is that normal? Do everyone, at one point in their life, smoke pot? Or the media the cause of that increase? While more countries are trying, or at least talking about, legalizing the usage of medical marijuana, is the media making the distinction difficult? How are people, especially the youth, supposed to learn that pot is bad for them, if the media makes it look normal?
For example, shows such as Weeds and That 70s Show have no qualm in showing young people smoking pot. Other numerous shows (Parenthood, Roseanne, Gilmore Girls, and Friends just to name a few (there are many)) all have an episodes where the adults find/or acquire pot and reminisce about the times they smoked when they were young.

  • It could be interesting to compare the treatment of smoking marijuana today in pop culture to the treatment of smoking cigarettes in past culture. – Marcie Waters 8 years ago
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  • 7% of Americans and 10% of Canadians smoke pot regularly. I would say it is definitely that smoking pot has been normalized first and then the media has taken it up. Could you add a few examples on TV or movies where pot smoking has been shown to be used by youth? – Munjeera 8 years ago
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  • Thanks for the comment and yes I will do that. – Nilab Ferozan 8 years ago
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  • Good work Nilab. I see you participating in the forum regularly. I look forward to your next article. – Munjeera 8 years ago
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  • Smoking pot appears in a bunch of shows as characters reminisce on smoking pot when they were young, but I think it's becoming more commonly just a thing that characters in TV do, like in Broad City. Is there a difference in how pot is treated from genre to genre? – chrischan 8 years ago
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  • While much of the world struggles to have enough clean water and food, others reminisce about the good old stoner days. Hmmmm.. – Tigey 8 years ago
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Political structure of Westeros

The quest for the Iron Throne is what has brought Westeros into its current mess. What needs to be done in order to bring unity back into Westeros, politically? What about the current governmental structure isn't working? Does there need to be a shift in how Westeros is governed? How did it all work before? Based on how the TV show is going, what type of government is needed and what kind of leader? And who best fits that mold? I always thought it might be better if Westeros was divided and governed by their respective divisions. Ex: The North would be a sovereign nation and governed by the head house of the North, and so on. But would this sort of system work? Could it work, and how so?

  • Wow! This is a really interesting topic and you discuss such intriguing topics pertaining to politics and social mores. Yet, how does one expect Westeros to become a politically viable governmental structure when you have mad tyrants trying to capture the throne? Also, look at the "time" in which this series takes place. Though we do not have an actual timeline, as this is a fantastical book/show series, we can infer that this time period was not one where democracy or the acts of politically correct modes of government would be of utmost importance. The only true hope of having a possible fair ruler was Ned Stark...and I think we all know how that turned out. This is an interesting question because as the series continues, and everyone is battling and killing for the throne, one must wonder, what will happen once the throne is actually one? Will peace be restored and all seven kingdoms abide by the "rightful ruler?" – danielle577 8 years ago
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  • This is a really interesting topic, especially with Dany actually moving into Westeros now. I think this would definitely be interesting if you discuss the theocracy, and the growing power of the Sept (what's going to be done about that?). Especially, with the idea of the people gaining their power, and how in essence, a very small group of people rule over a very large group of people (who have been war torn and are probably fed up). I think the question comes down to: how would the divisions interact? How would they deal with say, the displacement of people in Riverrun? What about people who don't have such large natural resources (The North/The Ironborn). – ninamicanovic 8 years ago
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  • I think there needs to be a definite distinction made between the show and the book here, since the two have diverged significantly. There is an entire history of government in Westeros (and some in Essos), but a lot of what is book canon isn't show canon, so anyone who wants to write this would likely have to just focus on the show or the books I think – Darcy Griffin 8 years ago
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Life After (Character) Death?

The death of popular characters on TV shows often leads to the fandom being outraged by their death and many fans claiming they're going to quit watching the show now that the character has died. But many don't actually leave. Does their behavior, in staying even after characters are killed, encourage the showrunners?

  • Interesting topic. You could very well go into different character deaths, provide examples of when it was necessary vs. when it isn't. – Nayr1230 8 years ago
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  • A cool thing to do would be to analyze the ratings before and after big character deaths. Oftentimes the news of the death gets spread like wildfire on social media and brings more attention to the show, potentially leading to an increased audience and definitely encouraging showrunners – Dominique Kollie 8 years ago
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  • I agree with Kollie...Analyzing the rating while the character is still on the show, and then once the character is killed off, would provide the best definitive evidence. "Die-hard" fans will likely stick with a series, as they have invested their time in it and desire to see how the series will wrap-up. I do know of people who began watching a series, let's say on Netflix, a few seasons behind, and once hearing a spoiler of a character's death, have stopped watching due to the disappointment or questioning, "Why even bother to watch anymore?" Now, a show like Game of Thrones would NOT be good to analyze since everyone dies. Yet, as they say on the show..."What is dead may never die," which sounds like an obvious point, but has been proven numerous times that the dead do tend to return. There have definitely been shows that are affected by huge deaths. One that comes to mind is "Grey's Anatomy." When one of the lead characters was killed off, viewership went down...even the "die hard fans." Another factor is whether or not viewers feel that the death is a pure act of sensationalism or a necessary means of driving the plot forward. This aspect is a very important component to this question. – danielle577 8 years ago
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  • You could also take this in the direction of survival or other reality shows that actually rely on the process of eliminating characters to increase popularity. – Jutor 8 years ago
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Girls (2012)

Question for the Millennials: is this TV show a reflection of the Generation X ? As the seasons unfold the girls become awful, selfish, narcissistic and manipulative. Is this a reflection of this generation? How realistic are these characters or are they overtop for dramatic and comic effect?

  • Might be interesting to also consider this show's relationship to the rise of the anti-hero in TV drama, and the relatively recent tradition of the unlikable sitcom character (i.e. Seinfeld, Arrested Development, etc.). Are these characters anti-heroines? To what extent is that an aesthetic choice rather than a form of direct social commentary? How are the two related? – ccaputo 8 years ago
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  • As a GenX I would have to say it sounds like yes on the negative side of my generation. I don't watch this show but hopefully they will portray some of the positive sides of my generation too. We make loyal friends and don't want to sell out. I have heard of a few criticisms of my generation such as we work to live instead of living to work like the Boomers and we are not that committed to our employers to mention one gripe of my peers. I wonder if that is portrayed. Whoever does this topic will have to define the prominent qualities of GenX. Hopefully positives and negatives. – Munjeera 8 years ago
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  • Very interesting subject. Even though the girls in this show are portrayed as manipulative and narcissistic, they're also a reflection of a generation that is trying, making mistakes and unafraid to admit that the transition towards adulthood is both scary and though. The show can be exaggerated but the interesting part of it is also its ability to be raw, truthful and to present a new vision of the heroine or anti-heroine seen on TV. The relation to sex is also completely different, as it is for the GenX, nor bad or good, which is interesting since the show is depicting it whithout any inhibitions but also without making any value judgement. It could be a good example to illustrate the answer to the question. – Ambre 8 years ago
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  • I think it is a little narrow minded to consider that Girls is an accurate representation of millennials as a generation. Perhaps instead of boxing in a whole generation of the population, consider taking a pro/con approach and tie it into how growing up as a millennial has been shaped by growing up around/being raised by people of previous generations. Of course, Girls is true-to-life in its representation of real world struggles, but a lot of the time the girls get what they want and hardly have to make an effort with the exception perhaps of Hannah. That could be another interesting direction to consider for this topic. – mingl018 8 years ago
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  • I had a couple of conversations recently in which I praised Gen Xers for being hard to market, and Millenials for being savers like the Silent Generation that grew up through the Depression. I was told by both friends, who are employers, that Milennials have no work ethic. Neither commented on Gen Xers. I'm not happy about this. I'd rather think this stuff is cyclical rather than believe the ship is sinking. Hopefully, it's just youth or two old crabby guys spouting off. Pretty scary, though, that one guy has a pretty good sized sample of employees to assess. He also told me the best employee he ever had was a Hmong guy who had been in the U.S. for a very short time. But it's alright, it's alright. You can't be forever blessed. – Tigey 8 years ago
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Female "Appetites" in "Sex and the City"

In “Sex and the City” food and restaurants not only provide a space of community in which to strengthen social, predominantly female, bonds but also come to mirror the ladies own sexual “appetites”. The four main characters gather at restaurants to discuss their problems, heartaches, successes, and their careers etc. At the heart of each episode are these scenes; no matter what the characters are doing, they will always find time to come together over a meal. For all New York divides, in terms of neighbourhoods, space, etc. “Sex and the City” argues that it is through sharing food that female solidarity can be achieved. Finally, the show’s obsession with food and restaurants extends to the main thesis of the show: that women can have sexual desires the same as men – thus, subverting this cultural idea that women have to curb or control their sexual "appetites" to be proper women. The show also subverts the typical discourse the market where women are consumed by men, and instead constructs men as commodities as well.

  • I think what could also be mentioned is whether or not Carrie having a sex column is connected to the girls' obsession with talking about, and objectifying men over food. While this may delve into another topic it would be interesting to analyze how the 4 chore women's roles would differ together if one of them were never present. For example, does Charlotte's old fashion sensability keep the group of friends grounded? – georgianer 8 years ago
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Does television give us an unrealistic view of reality?

Maybe a better title, but an article that explores whether or not TV shows give us a false idea of reality and whether or not they are realistic or not. Suggest whether the false reality it presents is a good way to escape or somewhat ordinary lives or if it is giving us false hope. Is the unrealistic plots of shows hindering our views and perception of the world, are they brainwashing us to think that this is what life should be like? or is it just a harmless way to get out of our own heads? maybe use examples from popular shows.

  • I would say definitely use examples from popular shows. That is really the only way you can make this argument effectively. It's an interesting theory though, basically questioning whether television is a mirror or molder of society. – John Wilson 8 years ago
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  • TV shows have become the go to method for escapism for many people. From an hour long trip to Westeros to a simple 30 minute dive into the world of Friends, a main part of our lives circulates around tv shows and the relief it gives us after a long day. Although TV shows can be stress relievers, there have definitely been times when I have thought that my social life was supposed to be one way, because I was so immersed in a show. TV shows are essentially as many people would put, like drugs. (I'm looking at you Breaking Bad) It isn't a bad thing that we watch shows, sometimes we even get a bit of motivation and inspiration from a character. There needs to be a healthy medium between binge watching to escape and being completely brainwashed. – simplyangiec 8 years ago
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  • Sometimes. Other times it's our own fantasy of getting justice against our enemies, ala Walter White, that makes us confuse his sad life for a happy, vengeful life we want for ourselves. But just as Walter's life becomes terrible, so does any life of vengeance. Hang in there, kids, the bastards will hang themselves on the gallows they built. – Tigey 8 years ago
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  • That depends on what you understand by "reality." – T. Palomino 2 years ago
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