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Why movie adaptations of video games are always expected to fail and what can be done to amend this

analyse the current trend of video game to movie adaptations and why they fail to perform in the box office; also make suggestions on what could be done to improve future adaptations.

  • I will note that not all are "expected to fail," but that yes with the failure of many there has become an overwhelming sense of despair in relation to this. To deal with this discussion the concept of "failure" will need to be outlined, as since films like Tomb Raider were not financial or popular failures, but many game players felt it was (as did many feminists but for different reasons). Also films such as the Resident Evil series are categorically not failures. So part of the discussion would include what the success stories are and what made them different to the other obvious failures such as - Warcraft, Assassin's Creed, The Angry Bird's Movie (although seriously!!!) – SaraiMW 6 years ago
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  • To further add to this, it might be worth going back a few years when video games were just starting to become mainstream and adaptations of various games were starting become the norm – AidanGuagliardo 6 years ago
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  • I feel this expectation is fundamentally tied to the vast difference between film storytelling and videogame storytelling. Depending on the director and creative team, both can be dealed with in various ways, but it is the way that people absorb these mediums what will always remain in duality: films are passively watched and videogames are actively played. I think this will always make the transition from videogame to movie feel less than its original source. Another thing to keep in mind is that creative works such as videogames tend to harvest what one could call hardcore fans and although this is true for probably anything in this world (train fanatics, car alarm fanatics, cricket fanatics...), when you have this medium where your actions unfold the story, or in the simplest cases you're controlling a jumping figure going through trial and error until you get to the final stage, people build a connection to its digital world that could be a very emotional one (with nostalgia playing a giant factor in many cases). Fans like these will hardly accept a mediocre movie about the franchise they love. Even the movie adaptation of Silent Hill, one of the most well-recieved adapations, is called out for its use of monsters that kind of go against the franchise's lore. – Pigman08 6 years ago
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What should the Marvel heroes have been doing to really improve the world?

Superheroes are supposedly motivated by compassion for others and a strong sense of duty. Given this, you'd expect them to do more with their powers than just punch evildoers into submission – there are loads of problems in the world that superpowers could really help with e.g., natural disasters, famines, disease, climate change, poverty, lack of energy (I'm looking at you, Tony Stark), etc. So what else should the Marvel heroes have been doing offscreen? What does that say about the characters if they weren't doing those things? And why is it that screenwriters/comic book writers don't think to build this into the fictional world – is it just lack of imagination?

  • I think this question is particularly interesting following Black Panther, where Wakanda's duty to the world is such an overarching theme. It can provide a great contrast to everything that's come before. – abran 7 years ago
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  • This is a really fascinating topic. I think at the heart of it is the fact that we strongly associate 'superheroes' with 'action'. To most of us, superheroes 'taking action' is yeah, punching evildoers, not really doing something as intensive as scientific research or lobbying. The skillsets of most Marvel superheroes don't really align with those issues. Tony is an engineer specialising in weapons (who had a change of heart about that, so yay?), Cap in another time would've been a highly-skilled mercenary... Actually, Banner could be an exception, given his expertise in biochemistry... It could also be that the stakes are 'awesomer' if they manifest through a tangible enemy, rather than something as abstract and therefore difficult to fight against like poverty. – Starfire 7 years ago
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  • This is an interesting take on The Avengers. I would say Avengers fighting famine, poverty, etc. would make for a great new focus for future films. – Yvonne 7 years ago
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  • In the first Avengers movie, Tony explains that he is, in fact, contributing to the clean energy market. Black Panther's big opening scene shows him taking down human traffickers, and at the end of his movie Wakanda begins offering assistance to the world. There's no reason to think that the superheroes who are allowed to show their faces in public are not helping with the world's problems in between movies. We just don't get to see it happening, because it doesn't make for interesting superhero movies. Also, I think it speaks to human nature. People tend to use what power they have for personal gain. These superheroes can make the world a better place by fixing the environment, but they can also do it by fighting people and aliens and robots, which feels much more personal. We the audience can empathize and engage with the latter. – noahspud 7 years ago
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  • Working more inclusively with the governments and try to solve other real world problems. – Abhilash 6 years ago
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Is there a point where the Marvel Universe Model Will Stop Working?

The Marvel Cinematic Universe has, for better or worse, changed the way that many studios view big budget film making, world building, advertising, and developing film projects. The Marvel Formula, (with individuals films, team ups, and spin offs) has been enormously successful and with Disney's enormous backing and support, there doesn't seem to be any end in sight. Will there be a point where Marvel movies will stop being as lucrative and successful as they are now? What possible reasons could contribute to a slowing of this seeming unstoppable engine?

  • At this point this is highly speculative, but a really interesting topic to put out there and see what happens. It is always difficult to gauge what will endure and what will fall apart. Often it is about the "engagement factor," how engaged an audience still is with a particular work/body of works. I would put out there that like all film and TV, a series of failures for whatever reason will put an end to the MCU. However, you do raise a good point that they now have the backing of Disney, who has experienced failures (a few in a row too) but this has not dented their continuation. So who knows? – SaraiMW 6 years ago
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  • Has it slowed? "Engagement factor" seems to be a term needing a great deal of clarity. – Joseph Cernik 6 years ago
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  • I think this is a really interesting topic! A couple areas of focus could be the remaining movies of "Phase 3," and the possible directions that the MCU could take after the fourth "Avengers" movie to maintain its popularity with audiences. – Scalera18 6 years ago
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The allure of masks

Masks have a long history in many different cultures, but they universally serve the same purpose – to transform the identity of one into another. What I mean by this is that the act of wearing a mask is used to "mask" a person's real identity and allow them to adopt, even if only momentarily, that of another. Examples of this range from simple anonymity where the wearer wishes to hide their identity for a later reveal, to those used in theatre such as Kabuki masks were the mask represents a particular character identity, to the use in ancient ceremonies where the mask is used to symbolise the gods' presence in the ceremony.

As such masks have already been used for centuries in theatre, and are considered a fairly standard aspect of performance art, but this does not diminish the power and symbolism they represent when used well. Many films have seized on the use of masks, either as a central plot device, such as in Jim Carey 1994 film 'The Mask', while others have used it as an aspect of the film, such as in 1999 film 'Eyes Wide Shut.' I think it might make an interesting topic to examine different uses and interpretations of the mask in various films, perhaps even tying them back to their cultural or social heritage.

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    Punishment of the past: Gunn and Guardians

    Recently old tweets (2008-2009) by James Gunn, writer and director of 'Guardians of the Galaxy' came to light and Disney fired him from completing the third in film in the series. The tweets contained "jokes" about pedophilia and rape, obviously inappropriate and not in line with Disney's ethos. Also in light of the recent Hollywood abuse allegations the industry is quite sensitive about such things.

    However, the question here is a little muddled, as obviously Gunn has apologised, but not only recently, but previously. He has responded previously to his early career behaviours and has also called himself out over the years for aspects of his "humour." How genuine this is, is of course difficult to gauge. Yet the question remains, how much of a person's past actions should they be punished for? What behaviours are completely inappropriate (sexual abuse, etc.) and what is the work of youthful foolishness? I am still on the fence concerning Gunn myself, but I think in an era of calling for greater repercussions in Hollywood for actions we do need to talk about the lines. Because there is the risk of making every controversial action anathema, which is also not socially healthy as criticism and challenges are what help drive change.

    • Good to be adding to the discussion as it continues to unfold, but let's not forget that this is not simply a question about inappropriate humour and the statute of limitations thereof. What has made this such a big issue has, in large part, been due to the source of the renewed interest in those old tweets being spurred by right-wing trolls (or "cybernazis," as Dave Bautista has been calling them) as a response to Gunn's vocal opposition to the Trump administration. (All this has been said better by others than what I could easily sum up here, this being the best take on the subject I have seen so far: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr7Sbu2Zgk4 ) – ProtoCanon 6 years ago
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    • i feel like this is a very interesting and important topic. it has been a huge and complex news cycle. I am just unsure whether RIGHT now is the best time to write this story, as so much is still being settled and more information, announcements, and decisions are coming from Disney and the actors surrounding Gunn (Dave Bautista called working for Disney "nauseating" after the Gunn firing. Either way, this is one of the biggest stories of the year and a really relevant one. – Sean Gadus 6 years ago
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    Old School = New School?

    In both the world of television and movie old classics (whether it be movie to movie adaptations, movie to TV, or literature to movie) have been given a new breath of life. Some of these reboots have been successful such as Riverdale, Lethal Weapon, Gossip Girl, Vampire Diaries, 90210 and Pretty Little Liars, Star Trek, Chris Nolan's Batman Trilogy. While others have not been so successful such as Baywatch, Knight Rider, Charlie's Angels, Power Rangers, Robocop, Fantastic Four, TMNT. Why is that some of these Television and Movie reboots fair better than others and what could've been done to turn the not so successful into a success.

    • I don't have much of a definitive answer, but I have some observations based on the examples you gave. The Baywatch reboot was (judging solely by the trailers) a comedy. If it failed, it failed as a comedy, or maybe because people expected it to be like the original Baywatch and it wasn't...because it was a comedy. The Power Rangers movie improved on the single worst part of the old Power Rangers TV show - the painfully terrible acting/dialogue. But it failed to recreate the action/effects that made the old show so cool, especially for young children, which was the only reason the show lasted for 20+ years of redesigns. It misunderstood what the people wanted. – noahspud 6 years ago
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    • It'd be a good idea to stablish first the success parameters used to classify these productions. Is it profits, critics' reception, cultural impact? – T. Palomino 2 years ago
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    Time Travel in Film: Does it Interfere with Pathos?

    It is no surprise that time travel has been used in so many films. The use of time travel in film, as well as in television and books, has allowed for interesting scenarios for characters. It is also a means for the protagonist to gain a second chance or prevent a horrific event from happening.For example, X-Men: Days of Future Past uses time travel in this way. The writers used time travel not only for the benefit of the characters, but also for the writers themselves. They were able to change everything from the previous films just by this one plot device. While the film was a hit, and many fans welcomed the changes caused by the film, others argued that it could lower the stakes in other films in the franchise. If something horrible happens in a film, and time travel is force existing in the film's universe, then the protagonist can go back in time as a means to prevent the event from happening. But does this create more complications?

    • I think this question is actually super interesting. Can stakes possibly exist in a world with time travel? I'd say a good reference against this theory is the show/game; Stein's Gate. This is a story with a lot of time travel, and a lot of "undoing" or "redoing" horrible events to make things better. However, this show keeps the stakes by always having a balance. In one reality, a character may have their dead father back - but as a result their friend dies in this new timeline. The characters have to choose between the two realities, and ultimately go back to the "original reality." Reliving trauma and ideas of equivalent exchange are excellent ways to balance stories about time travel. Having a drawback or repercussion of time travel is a great way to have the characters question whether altering time and reality is for the best. ... however, the X-Men movies haven't really touched on this much. It ends up being more of a plot device to keep the franchise going rather to explore characters and time travel in a meaningful way. As an x-men fan, I appreciated the way they "fixed" the mistakes of the past movies, but also it does detract from the overall meaning and stakes of the movies. If they want to keep exploring/using time travel as a plot device, I would really want them to learn from stories like Steins; Gate that explore it meaningfully. – Dimitri 7 years ago
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    • Time travel does seem to take away existing stakes in the ways you mentioned. However, remember that it comes with it's own stakes as well! "X Men" did not touch on this much, but if you look at "Back to the Future," time travel created all of the stakes Marty had to face for the duration of the first movie. Because he went back in time, he messed up the sequence of events that would erase his siblings and himself from existence, and those screw ups could only be fixed if he recreated the timeline himself and went back to his own timeline by way of a freak storm with one shot of getting it right - which is a lot at stake. Yes, time travel in "X Men" really did seem to eliminate the stakes in a lot of regards, but there is more to time travel than just righting a wrong. – Sara L. 7 years ago
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    • Great topic! I certainly didn't feel the pathos I think I was supposed to feel toward the end of Avengers: Infinity War. (SPOILER ALERT, probably wholly unnecessary at this point----->) The one-by-one dissolution of our beloved heroes didn't move me much at all. After all, we saw the time stone used just a bit earlier in the film to rewind time and essentially undo an act of extreme sacrifice. – JamesBKelley 7 years ago
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    • In Days of Future Past, time travel was portrayed as a complicated process, which helps with the stakes. Time passes synchronously in the present and past, so if the robots kill Time Travel Girl before Wolverine can change things, the mission fails. Also, only Wolverine can survive the trip; next time, if Wolverine is unavailable, everyone else is out of luck. The stakes were treated in similar ways in Back to the Future. Even if Marty McFly changes history, he requires 2.21 gigawatts of electricity and 88 mph speeds to get back to his present to enjoy the changes. Now in, say, Doctor Who, time travel is portrayed as pretty easy, so problems can be fixed without much pathos. Indeed, whenever something can't be fixed by time travel, many fans cry "plot convenience." – noahspud 6 years ago
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    • Not much more than any other plot element would. The power of time travel to move and shape (or reshape) events is probably no different than the death of a pivotal character, the effect of a natural disaster on story outcome, or a protagonist triumphant foil as an uncompromising twist to the ending, seems to me. Time travel is just mayhem and haywire to the extreme. – L:Freire 6 years ago
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    Annihilation: The Alienation of Desire

    Analyse and discuss the idea of an "antagonist" without desire, as seen in Alex Garland's Annihilation. The alien being seen in the film is described as "not wanting anything" and displays strange mimicking behaviour, only reacting to the actions of others. However, its arrival heralds the imminent destruction of life on Earth. How can one reason with such a being? How can you relate to an antagonist that has no desire? How does this lack of motivation affect the characters' actions? How does it affect the viewers' reactions?

    • I like this topic quite a bit, actually. I found the movie to be fascinating, and I think this could make for a very strong article. – ValleyChristion 7 years ago
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    • Please note this is currently a pending article that should appear for release in Aug/Sept. So if wanting to engage with the topic wait until that article is produced, review and consider before attempting another article. – SaraiMW 6 years ago
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    • Very rich topic and it seems from the get go you have a strong sense of which questions the film was trying to explore. Having a set of well articulated questions, particularly ones that deal with a central issue to human life such as desire can make itself a worthwhile piece of literature. I imagine you are already likely doing this, but to give your article the most strength I would ground your exploration of this topic in theory - literary, philosophical, visual - or contemplate these questions in relation to another work that tackles them in a different way. One of the topics here I would be genuinely interested in reading. – liviamargon 6 years ago
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